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ferring the Dedication till next year,
when all parties cooperat-
ing in this work will have full time to do their work
unhurried
and in the best artistic fashion.
The contract with the Sculptor calls for
the completion of
all of his work by January 1st, 1926,
with possibility of exten-
sion of time for cause. In no case can
the panels in the rotunda
be ready for the dedication date. Their
place in the room can
be clearly indicated on that occasion
and possibly charcoal or
crayon sketches of the proposal panels
may be put in position
as a forecast of what is to follow.
On the whole, the Committee feels that
its work has gone
forward in a fairly satisfactory manner.
It is believed by the
members of the Society, when they stand
in Fifteenth avenue,
either on the northeast or northwest
corner of the structure and
witness the handsome facade of the new
wing, that all must
realize that the Society is taking a
notable step forward with the
completion of this beautiful addition to
the building, which will
permit great steps forward in the better
classification of exhibits,
and the more complete division of the
Society's work into de-
partments in accordance with Museum
procedure elsewhere.
Very respectfully submitted,
(Signed) EDWARD ORTON, JR.,
Chairman of the Building Committee.
On motion the report was received and
ordered
placed on file.
COOPERATION BETWEEN THE OHIO STATE UNI-
VERSITY AND THE OHIO STATE ARCHAE-
OLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
General Orton read the report of the
Committee as
follows:
On December 6th, 1923, a committee was
appointed to con-
sider the relations between these two
institutions, both of which
are state supported, both upon the same
campus, containing
many members in common, and working for
the same general
object, viz., the increase of
education and the collection and dis-
semination of knowledge among men. It
was felt that while
there were, fortunately, no real
conflicts between them, that their
normal expansion would make some
division of interest likely to
grow up, if a policy were not arranged
which would more or less
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define the respective spheres of action,
and provide definitely
for the settlement of issues instead of
allowing them to grow
up into differences.
This Committee consisted of: --
Mr. George F. Bareis
General George Florence
General Edward Orton, Jr.,
representing the Society, and,
Dr. W. O. Thompson
Dr. T. C. Mendenhall
Dr. Raymond Osburn
representing the University.
This committee held a number of
meetings, called in experts
representing both institutions, and
discussed quite fully two
phases of activity in which the danger
of overlapping seemed
most imminent, viz., the Library problem
and the Museum of
Natural History problem.
The result of these various meetings was
a declaration
dated March 6th, 1924, which was
presented to the Board of
Trustees on March 8th. This document is
of such importance
as to justify reproduction in its
entirety in this record, as follows:
MARCH 6, 1924.
To the Board of Trustees of The Ohio
State Archaeological and His-
torical Society.
The undersigned, appointed to sit with a
similar committee appointed
by the Trustees of the Ohio State
University for the purpose of arrang-
ing a scheme of cooperation between the
two institutions in the work of
collecting and caring for books and
materials relating to Ohio history,
and also in preparing and maintaining a
museum of Natural History,
respectfully report that two joint
meetings of the Committees were held
at which various phases of the question
were fully discussed; that at
both of these the President of the
Historical Society and the President
of the University were present and took
part in the discussion; and that
there was finally a joint agreement to
report as follows:
A. REGARDING BOOKS AND MATERIALS RELATING TO OHIO HISTORY.
1. In view of the fact that the Ohio
State University is promoting
study and research in the field of Ohio
History it seems advisable that
the historical material relating to this
field already in the possession of
the University Library and of the
Society's Library on the campus should
be concentrated in one place so as to
facilitate the use of it. It is there-
fore agreed that the Trustees of the
University will lend the University's
collection in said field or such other
collections as it may hereafter acquire,
to the Ohio Archaeological and
Historical Society for an indefinite time,
on condition that the Society's Library
on the University grounds and the
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Society Publications
Hayes Memorial Library at Fremont, Ohio,
shall be open to students and
teachers of the University, with the
understanding that the Trustees of
the University will supply an assistant
librarian for the care of the
Society's collections on the University
campus.
2. It is further understood that the
principal purchase of books
and materials relating to Ohio history
shall be made by the Ohio State
Archaeological and Historical Society.
3. It is further agreed that there shall
be a joint standing com-
mittee representing both the Society and
the University to maintain the
cooperation between these two State
institutions as herein provided and
to recommend purchases to the Society of
books and other historical
material relating to Ohio history. The
chairman of said joint committee
shall be elected by said committee.
4. It is understood that special
collections in the possession of either
institution, especially collections
received by gift or that may be so re-
ceived hereafter, shall not be
necessarily considered as subject to the loan
arrangement suggested in item No. 1 of
this agreement.
B. REGARDING A MUSEUM OF NATURAL
HISTORY.
1. It is hereby mutually agreed between
the University and the
Society, that there is need of a Museum
of Natural History in the
Capital City of Ohio, in which may be
gathered, preserved and exhibited
for
the interest, information and education of the general public, such
collections as will explain the nature
of the rocks and minerals which
compose the surface of this State, and
the organic life which has existed
or now exists here.
2. That such a Museum Building is a
legitimate and needed element
in the general desire of man to know
everything possible about the uni-
verse in which he exists and of which he
is a part, and that there is
abundant warrant in the history of every
civilized nation, and the states
of our own nation, to justify the
expenditure of public funds for the
pursuance of such educational and
research objects as a museum will
foster and develop.
3. That such a building will do the
greatest good to the greatest
number of the people who pay for it
through taxation, if it is located
on the Campus of the Ohio State
University, because there are congre-
gated and are attracted to that place by
far the largest number of people
who are seeking knowledge and developing
interests in such things.
4. That such a project might conceivably
and legitimately be taken
up by either the University or the
Society, with good precedent for either,
but that it falls more directly within
the line of activity of the Society
because the educational work done by
that Organization is not formal
school work done in class rooms, but
consists principally of exposing
its object lessons to the view of the
public, thereby awakening a wide-
spread interest in nature's works among
people who cannot avail them-
selves of systematic class room
instruction.
5. That such a project should not be
undertaken by both the
University and the Society, because of
unnecessary overlapping and in-
creased cost to the people.
6. That the University will favor the
allocation to the Society of
such additional space on the University
Campus as may be needed for
an adequate Museum of Natural History,
adjoining the Society's present
building, and will stand ready to enter
into contract with the Society for
furnishing to it the heat, light, power
and other services which it now
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furnishes to the Society's present
building, and upon the same general
terms.
7. That the Society will begin efforts
to secure from the next
General Assembly financial provision for
a Museum Building, of archi-
tecture and design such as to make it a
suitable companion to the present
structure, said Museum to house the
Natural History Collections which
the Society has already accumulated and
may in future accumulate.
8. That to at once make the plea for
such a building reasonable
and attractive to the General Assembly,
the University agrees to lend
indefinitely to the Society such of its
collections of Minerals, Rocks and
Fossils, as may be subsequently arranged
for by the Departments of
Geology and Mineralogy, and such
collections representing the animal
and vegetable life of the State as may
be arranged for by the Depart-
ments of Zoology and Botany or other
departments having the custody
of collections along these lines, to the
end that such a Museum Building
would at once be filled with interesting
and creditable collections as soon
as available, to the great relief in
space and in care of the Departments
in which said collections are now
scattered.
9. That said Museum of Natural History
might or might not take
over the Archaeological and Ethnological
exhibits of the Society now on
exhibition and in storage in the present
building, depending upon space
made available by the General Assembly,
and the bulk of the collections
which the University might furnish for
exhibit but that the principle be
agreed upon that in time and when space
is available the Archaeological
and Ethnological Exhibits should finally
be a part of the Natural His-
tory Museum, leaving the present
structure for Library and for collec-
tions of antiquities of historic age.
10. That all the material of the Museum
whether or display or
otherwise shall be available to the
University for purposes of study and
research.
11. That the Department of the
University which lends material
may have a voice in the proper display
of such material, a member of
each Department concerned shall be
appointed a representative of the
University to consider the proper
utilization of collections loaned by the
University.
12. That specimens lent by the
University but not suited for exhi-
bition purposes, such as unmounted skins
and skeletons of animals, etc.,
may be properly prepared for exhibition
purposes by the Museum, with
the consent of the representative of the
Department concerned.
13. That the Museum shall provide proper
curatorial service for
the care of material loaned by the
University, to insure its permanent
preservation, whether such material be
on exhibition or in storage.
14. That the Museum provide a research
room where such loaned
material may be placed at the disposal
of students for the purpose of
study.
Respectfully submitted,
[SIGNED BY THE COMMITTEE.]
The report was debated at great length
by the Trustees and
at the conclusion, it was felt that a month's delay, to afford
more time for study and reflection was desirable.
Accordingly,
the report was tabled for a month, and
on being further con-
sidered at the next meeting, of April
7th, 1924, it was finally
passed.
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At the same meeting, a new committee of
seven was ap-
pointed "to further study the
question and investigate as to dup-
lication of assets in the building we
are already constructing
and the proposed building." While it is not very clearly stated
in the above, the discussion held at the
time was to the general
purport that the new committee was in a
way one to suggest
ways and means to carry the cooperation
platform of April 7th,
into effect. This committee was as
follows: --
Mr. George F. Bareis, Chairman,
Mr. E. F. Wood
Dr. F. C. Furniss
Mr. J. C. Goodman
General Edward Orton, Jr.
Dr. W. C. Mills
Mr. C. B. Galbreath.
This Committee then inherits the general
work of the orig-
inal committe on Cooperation, in that it
is now expected to pro-
vide specific recommendations of
cooperative acts to be per-
formed by the two organizations. The
Committee has had one
meeting, on August 5th, 1924.
Two matters were taken up.
First. Has the Board of Trustees of the Ohio State Uni-
versity formally accepted the report of
March 6th, 1924, signed
by the joint Committee, which this
Society ratified on April 7th,
1924?
The Secretary was instructed to get
definite information on
that matter and has subsequently found
that the Board of Trus-
tees have not adopted the report. It is
not understood that they
have refused to do so, but merely that
they have not had the
matter brought up to them. This will
probably be done by Dr.
Thompson at an early meeting. Pending
their adhesion to this
declaration of policy, this Society can
take no definite steps.
Second. In the re-allocation, of space in the building, when
the new wing becomes available for use,
which should be in the
next two or three months, at the latest,
what plans have the Di-
rector and Secretary to suggest, to
further the carrying out of
the general scheme proposed in the
Conference agreement of
March, 1924?
The plan covers, (a) the Library
consolidation and (b) the
Museum of Natural History.
(a)
The Library project involves transfer of the books
and documents of Ohio History from the
University Library
to the Society's Library, their
combination into one working Li-
brary, and the appointment by the
University of a competent
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person to act as reference Librarian,
with general charge of the
Society's library, under the General
supervision of the Secre-
tary of the Society, who is to still
retain his title as Librarian.
Assuming that the Board of University
Trustees will sanc-
tion the conference report, it is apparent that nothing
will be ac-
complished unless actual physical steps
are taken by the Society
to provide new space, new shelving or
stacks, and additional
equipment. The University certainly will
not or should not send
its books down to this Library, if their
accessibility and useful-
ness is impaired thereby. It becomes
necessary therefore to pre-
pare a definite plan for the enlargement
of the Society's Library,
as a preliminary to asking for the
transfer of material to take
place.
The Secretary of the Society in his
capacity as Librarian,
has been urged to submit his
recommendations for the space he
will need, and to furnish estimates of
the number, size, shape
and kind of cases or stacks he will need
to equip it, and an esti-
mate of the cost of pulling out
partitions, renovating the walls,
increasing the lighting facilities, etc.
He has made no report to
the committee as yet, but he has stated
orally that he has consult-
ed an architect on the reconstruction
features and is collecting
estimates on the equipment.
(b) The Director of the Society has not
yet submitted his
recommendations for space allocation to
the committee, altho he
is and has been ready to do so for some
weeks past. It is the
opinion of the Committee, that the
Library project and the
Museum project must both be clearly
presented before the Com-
mittee can do any further constructive work.
Enough is already known about the
Library situation to see
that it presents a quite different
problem from that of the Mu-
seum. The Library will probably inherit
the old basement rooms
directly underneath the present Library,
and these will have to
be consolidated into one or more rooms,
cleared out, cleaned, re-
furnished and equipped.
The floor area now occupied by the
Library is 2032 feet.
There is, in the basement beneath, going
as far as the cross wall
of the center court of the building,
3880 feet additional. If all
of this is allocated to the Library, it
would be an increase of
about 190%. If the two north rooms are
not included, the gain
would be about 90%. It is possible that
the small space may
do for a time, but very soon the whole
space will be needed for
books and library work-rooms.
Without any estimate, it is safe to say
that a number of
thousands of dollars must be spent,
before this Society will be
in position to ask the University Library to send its
Ohio ma-
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terial down to this Library. The task
now seems so large that
it seems to this committee unlikely that
the consolidation can
be effected before the summer of 1925. The intervening
months
will be used in preparing plans,
securing the appropriation, do-
ing the physical work, and rearranging
the Society's books and
material, all of which is preliminary to
receiving the University's
collection.
The situation with regard to Museum of
Natural History
is somewhat otherwise. The space which
will probably be al-
located to the new Natural History
Museum will be new, clean
and fresh. It will require cases,
undoubtedly, but much of it can
be installed as soon as the rooms are
ready and funds for mov-
ing are provided. Since the
appropriation for the salary of the
curator of Natural History has not yet
been used this year, since
no one has been appointed, it is
possible that that money could
be re-allocated for cases, and
preparation of Natural History
material, and a start thus made earlier
than will be likely in the
case of the Library. This conclusion is
also strengthened by the
fact that the various natural history
departments on the campus
are anxious to get their exhibits out,
in order to use their space
for class work, which will tend to
accelerate the movement.
This committee sees in carrying of its
project into execu-
tion a long and arduous task -- one
which will be in fact a proc-
ess of growth, rather than any sudden
decision to be made. It
sees as the result of this work, a rapid
material gain by the So-
ciety and a great accession to public
interest in its work."
(Signed) "EDWARD ORTON,
JR."
On motion the report was received, approved
and
ordered placed on file.
Colonel W. L. Curry read the report on
FORT LAURENS.
as follows:
Your Committee on Fort Laurens begs
leave to report as
follows:
That a house has been erected for
residence of the Superin-
tendent of the grounds, but the amount
appropriated for that
purpose was not sufficient to complete
the building entirely, and
it is not yet occupied. It is estimated
that it will require an ap-
propriation of two hundred dollars to
complete the house.
The roadway around the grounds has been
carefully im-